Curse

Sacred o_O · Jan 04, 2007, 03:57 AM // 03:57

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Felt like making a Rit build that didn't involve any spirits.

<3 Warmonger's Weapon.

Discuss.

the choseone · Jan 04, 2007, 07:33 AM // 07:33

I think you got not enough defense in your build with all the thumpers in ta. I would drop the warrior and take a warder or b-surge mesmer or ele. I would also take out hexbreaker and signet of devotion for dark escape and return.

Sacred o_O · Jan 04, 2007, 02:14 PM // 14:14

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Originally Posted by the choseone

I think you got not enough defense in your build with all the thumpers in ta. I would drop the warrior and take a warder or b-surge mesmer or ele. I would also take out hexbreaker and signet of devotion for dark escape and return.

I would think that a 54 or 67 heal with a condition removal coming in every 1.5 seconds is enough to keep up a monk getting trained by thumpers. The idea is also not to have every match last 5 minutes long.

I originally had an Ebon Dust Dervish instead of the Thumper, but blind works against Weapon of Remedy/Vengeful Weapon. The warrior can always go back and lineback for a while.

Divineshadows · Jan 04, 2007, 04:16 PM // 16:16

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Weapon of Remedy is fun.

No, it's not really that fun for the monk in the team. Facing teams with 2+ melee (counting their pets) the hits come in often enough that the vast majority of their damage gets through. Weapon of remedy cannot be considered a replacement to anti-melee skills. I tried monking on a team running no anti-melee skills and using weapon of remedy. We still won at least 5 out of every 6 of our matches, but could not get a consistent streak going. In addition, the extra stress running no anti-melee puts on your monk makes the matches not fun.

Zui · Jan 04, 2007, 06:45 PM // 18:45

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No, it's not really that fun for the monk in the team. Facing teams with 2+ melee (counting their pets) the hits come in often enough that the vast majority of their damage gets through. Weapon of remedy cannot be considered a replacement to anti-melee skills. I tried monking on a team running no anti-melee skills and using weapon of remedy. We still won at least 5 out of every 6 of our matches, but could not get a consistent streak going. In addition, the extra stress running no anti-melee puts on your monk makes the matches not fun.

QFT. It should really be mentioned that we were winning those 5/6 games only because the opposition sucked, or we majorly out played them. Not because Weapon of Remedy was any good. (If this wasn't already obvious to everyone)

Although, I must say that running Weapon of Remedy on my bar and getting opposing melees to kill themselves was almost worth not getting gladiator points, but not quite.

TheOneMephisto · Jan 04, 2007, 09:47 PM // 21:47

Agreed with the others. This build kind of relies on killing them before you die. I would suggest switching the warrior for like a reaper's mark necro, but then this build would be a bit more on the defensive end of things.

Sacred o_O · Jan 05, 2007, 03:29 AM // 03:29

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Although, I must say that running Weapon of Remedy on my bar and getting opposing melees to kill themselves was almost worth not getting gladiator points, but not quite.

That was the idea at first. I even had Reversal of Damage on the monk instead of RoF because I thought it would be pretty funny. But then I stepped back and thought about how retarded the bar would have been.

At the beginning of one of the 50+ fun seasons we've recently had, I watched EvIL run Weapon of Remedy on an assasin ganker. Ever since then, I've wanted to include it in a build.

And on a sidenote, DKT has 2 copies of Weapon of Remedy in their 6 necro hex/spirit/minion gayness build (last time I watched them, which was Monday), so style points for them.

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Agreed with the others. This build kind of relies on killing them before you die. I would suggest switching the warrior for like a reaper's mark necro, but then this build would be a bit more on the defensive end of things.

My goal was also to include as little gayness (read: IMBA [read: skills that make anyone decent]) as possible, so if anything, I would drop the thumper for some anti-melee. But I don't want to do that. It would be easy to drop the rit for a Bsurge and swap the war for a thumper, but thats no fun.

And, IMO, designing a build with a "roll or be rolled" mentality is fine, as long as you can ensure that, the majority of the time, you're the one doing the rolling (<3 KGYU).

Not all builds need defense. Defense is only to keep your monks from raging. 3 thumpers anyone?

TheOneMephisto · Jan 06, 2007, 07:45 PM // 19:45

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My goal was also to include as little gayness (read: IMBA [read: skills that make anyone decent]) as possible, so if anything, I would drop the thumper for some anti-melee. But I don't want to do that. It would be easy to drop the rit for a Bsurge and swap the war for a thumper, but thats no fun.

And, IMO, designing a build with a "roll or be rolled" mentality is fine, as long as you can ensure that, the majority of the time, you're the one doing the rolling (<3 KGYU).

Not all builds need defense. Defense is only to keep your monks from raging. 3 thumpers anyone?

I can understand not wanting to use imba skills, but not using them gimps you.

Also, in TA a roll or be rolled mentality doesn't work unless you are playing during noob hours. The fact that you have to win 10 in a row means that even if you're winning 9/10 on average you aren't going to be getting very many glad points.

And all teams kind of do need defense when your monk in a 3 thumper build is just gonna get rolled in 5 sec and 2 of your thumpers are going to be blind. The pressure templates that are out there in TA are just too powerful.